Tile Perfect Spray-on Grout Sealer

To everyone planning on using Tile Perfect Grout Sealer:

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Hey Skip-- you're literally a day late.

http://www.floorstransformed.com/ceramic_tile/messages/19290.html

PERFECT.

I'll just repeat this message from the other post.

Here is the email address for the CDC (Centers for Disease Control) this would be a good place for everyone to begin complaining about this product.

http://www.cdc.gov/netinfo.htm

If everyone reading this were to send an email to the CDC something may get done.

Hey Bud, Any luck on getting a "BUYER BEWARE" section up and running here? I think that was a really good idea. Probably some legal reasons why this can't be done but I think it would save alot of people from having to make trips to the ER or worse.

I had forgotten about that. I don't see where that could get get any of us in any more trouble than what we are already doing. Besides the board isn't responsible for any of our comments and we are simply espousing our opinions anyway.

CARTER? What say you?

Sorry about the unfinished post before.

The question I was asking is if anyone has had any related health issues due to this product.

The second question comes from reading some of these posts. One of these posts mentioned that the product was recalled as of 07/25/05, however, I purchased my product on 08/01/05 from Home Depot.

My 11-year-old son spent three days in intensive care and two additional nights in the hospital after we used this product in our house. We would like to find any information regarding this product we can possibly find.

I would appreciate any information anyone can share.

Thank you.

The second question comes from reading some of these posts. One of these posts mentioned that the product was recalled as of 07/25/05, however, I purchased my product on 08/01/05 from Home Depot.

I got the same kind of response in another forum from someone who said they were just in their Home Depot yesterday and it was still there as well. My response to them is that the one Home Depot that the poster you're talking about went into may have voluntarily pulled it off of THEIR shelves. It's definitely not corporate. Not yet.

To our Home Depot employees in here, could you email me and let me know if this product has been pulled in your store or not?

billvincent@hotmail.com

I picked some up today so it definately hasn't been recalled. When I get time I'll test the product out. As for the health related posts I'll hold my opinion for now. I think it's worth noting that some people are more sensitive to chemicals than others. I've seen people taken to the hospital via ambulance because of the fumes from ordinary organic mastic. My advice is, if you feel this product is the cause of your illness, contact a lawyer.

I've said it in the other thread, I'll say it again-TIle Perfect was all over this board when that stainproof grout was getting bad reviews, but where are they on all these postings about sealer issues? Anyway, from the tile perfect web site, you can click on the stand and spray sealer instructions and the redirect will enable you to get to the MSDS. Here's a quote from it, and they expect people to use it indoors, labling it "provide ventilation"!?

==================== SECTION VI - HEALTH HAZARD DATA =====================
HEALTH HAZARDS (ACUTE AND CHRONIC)
PRIMARY ROUTE (s) OF ENTRY:
Skin contact, eye contact, ingestion or inhalation.
INHALATION HEALTH RISKS AND SYMPTOMS OF EXPOSURE:
High vapor concentrations may result in Central Nervous System (NCS) Depression.
SKIN AND EYE CONTACT HEALTH RISKS AND SYMPTOMS OF EXPOSURE:
SKIN: Slight to moderate irritation, prolonged or repeated contact can result in
Defatting and drying of the skin which may result in skin irritation and dermatitis.
EYES: Non-irritating to practically non-irritating.
SKIN ABSORPTION HEALTH RISKS AND SYMPTOMS OF EXPOSURE:
Ingestion of product may result in vomiting; aspiration into lungs must be avoided as
Even small quantities may result in aspiration pneumonitis.
INGESTION/INHALATION HEALTH RISKS AND SYMPTOMS OF EXPOSURE: Ingestion of product may
Result in vomiting; aspiration into lungs must be avoided as even small quantities may
Result in aspiration pneumonitis.
HEALTH HAZARDS (ACUTE AND CHRONIC): N/A
CARCINOGENICITY: NTP CARCINOGEN: No IARC MONOGRAPHS: No OSHA REGULATED: No
TERATOGENICITY: N/A
MUTAGENICITY: N/A
TOXICOLOGICALLY SYNERGISTIC PRODUCTS: N/A
MEDICAL CONDITIONS GENERALLY AGGRAVATED BY EXPOSURE: Skin conditions, breathing
Problems.
EMERGENCY AND FIRST AID PROCEDURES:
INGESTION: DO NOT INDUCE VOMITING. If vomiting occurs spontaneously, keep head
Below hips to prevent aspiration of liquid into lungs.
EYES: Immediately flush eyes with plenty of water for at least 15 minutes while
Holding eyelids open.
SKIN: Remove clothing/shoes & wipe excess from skin. Flush skin with water.
Follow by washing with soap & water. Do not reuse clothing until cleaned.
INHALATION: Remove victim to fresh air. If not breathing, give artificial
Respiration. If breathing is difficult, oxygen should be administered by
Qualified person.
GET MEDICAL ATTENTION IF NECESSARY.

It goes on to add this about what measures to protect yourself when using

===================== SECTION VIII - CONTROL MEASURES =====================
OCCUPATIONAL EXPOSURE LIMITS
ACGIH TLV ACGIH TLV-C ACGIH STEL OSHA STEL OSHA PEL
D-LIMONENE N/E N/E N/E N/E N/E
N-BUTYL ACETATE 150 PPM N/E N/E N/E 150 PPM
PROPANE 800 PPM N/E N/E N/E 800 PPM
ISOBUTANE 600 PPM N/E N/E N/E 600 PPM
C8-C9 PETROLEUM
HYDROCARBON SOLVENT 300 PPM N/E N/E N/E 300 PPM
RESPIRATORY PROTECTION
Outdoors – Recommend an approved mechanical particulate filter to remove any airborne
Overspray. In restricted areas with poor ventilation, use a NIOSH approved
Organic Cartridge Respirator. For concentrations above the exposure limit, use
A positive air supplied respirator.
VENTILATION
ALL APPLICATION AREAS SHOULD BE ADEQUATELY VENTILATED IN ORDER TO KEEP THE ITEMS IN
SECTION II BELOW THEIR EXPOSURE LIMITS. Exhaust air may need to be cleaned by scrubbers
Or filters to reduce environmental contamination.
PROTECTIVE GLOVES
Test data indicates the best protection is provided by neoprene, nitrile and natural
Rubber gloves.
EYE PROTECTION
Use chemical safety goggles and/or full face shield where splashing is possible.
Contact lenses should not be worn.
OTHER PROTECTIVE CLOTHING OR EQUIPMENT
Impervious apron may be worn. Eye wash fountain and safety shower.
WORK/HYGIENIC PRACTICES
Do not breathe vapors. Avoid skin or eye contact. Wash contaminated clothing before reuse.
Local mechanical exhaust as needed to maintain exposure levels below TLV or PEL.

The complete MSDS can be seen here:http://standandseal.radius3.com/media/Stand_N_Seal_Spray_On_Grout_Sealer_MSDS.pdf

OK, maybe this time the link will work
http://standandseal.radius3.com/media/Stand_N_Seal_Spray_On_Grout_Sealer_MSDS.pdf

Lastly, should this link suddenly become non working, I have saved the pdf file and will be happy to send a copy of the file to whomever should need one.

What does everyone here think about TileLab Penetrating sealer? I bought a couple small bottles with a small paintbrush like tip on top. It went on easy enough but was fairly runny.

Nick start a new thread with your question. This thread is about Tile-Pefect Spray On Grout Sealer.

THX

Hey Carter, if you disappear for awhile this time, at least we'll know what happened.

Keep a window open, will ya, hate to lose ya.

Carter you are going to test that stuff out at the beach I hope. Hey, I know where there are some huge lion statues in your area that probably need to be sealed by now. Go seal those suckers and report back.

And this stuff is supposed to be safe for use by DIYers?

I hope to HELL that someone wins a nice huge 7 figure settlement off of em.

Someone will. A lawyer. After expenses and fees, all the people that used it will get a couple dollars or maybe a coupon for a discount off premixed thinset or stain proof grout. Isn't that how most class action settlements work? I hate to hear of health problems from this stuff, but anyone else who had possible health problems from this stuff, I hope they post here so others may think about what they are using and may be doing to themselves.

The stand and spray grout sealer was still being sold at Home Depot's Gretna, La. (suberb of New Orleans) store on 8/8/05. I didn't purchase it cause I was concerned about the overspray. I opted for a different product in a bottle with a roller on it, which I have not used yet.

I have just returned from my local Home Depot in Grand Island Nebraska. I looked for the spray sealer in question and when I couldn't fine it I inquired as to its whereabouts. Home Depot told me the product had been recalled but they didn't know why.

I don't know who has effected the recall but apparently someone is paying attention somewhere.

From the looks of that MSDS Sheet, this product should only be handled by a HAZMAT Team and no one else. THAT is one of the scariest MSDS Sheets I have ever seen in this business.

I contacted the Poison Control Center yesterday and they told me that they had received many, many complaints about this product and that they had called the company and informed them of their concerns.